Unethical, Yes! Disgusting, Definitely! But is it a conspiracy? Let’s find out…
Dr. Lindsey Duncan has only recently come up on my radar, and yet he has already guaranteed himself a spot in this years Rogues Gallery class of inductees. It is remarkable that he has achieved this position so quickly without having reached the criminal levels evidenced by others who had achieved this feat in years past, such as Heidi Diaz… Now she was a piece of work.
I would have put Lindsey Duncan in the Rogues Gallery for his unparalleled work at talking out of his ass about ‘super foods’, detoxification, ‘anti-aging’ foods and constantly reminding people that he is the nutritionist to the stars. This guy has a superfood for each and every ailment known to man. It is astounding to me that we even need regular doctors and medicines with the quick fixes this guy finds. Who needs more reasons?
In any case, I recently posted about Lindsey Duncan’s appearance on Dr. Oz and what a vacant, over acted and completely embarrassing performance Dr. Oz put in shilling this product for Lindsey Duncan. There were no shortage of questions about what Dr. Oz is up to,as this was at least the 4th, ‘Miracle in a bottle’ that Dr. Oz has hyped recently. The complete lack of research on his part and that of his staff is amazing. In the previous misstep he missed almost everything to do with the ‘Raspberry Ketones’ that he was pitching in an earlier miracle episode. Simple things like the fact that they are almost guaranteed to not be natural raspberry ketones, but instead are most likely made in a lab (source):
Raspberry Ketones (also known as 4-(4-hydroxyphenyl) butan-2-one) are an extract from Red raspberries usually used as a scenting and flavoring agent in foods and cosmetics. It has a structure similar to Capsaicin and Synephrine, sharing a 1,3,7-cyclohexene group with a carbon tail.
It can naturally be found in many foods, most notably raspberries (in which case it is synthesized from coumaroyl-CoA), however most raspberry ketone is synthesized or produced via bacteria due to its high demand in cosmetics and as a flavoring agent.
But how could he have missed this:
Genesis Today (for full disclosure, I am the Founder & CEO of Genesis Today)
If you want to experiment with green coffee extract, we recommend the Source Naturals brand product from iHerb, and not Dr. Lindsey’s own formulation. Why? Source Naturals contains the precise, proprietary extract used in the study (GCA®), contains a larger dose per pill (500mg vs. 400mg) and is cheaper (when purchased at iHerb).
“I was overwhelmed by the response from my appearance last week on national TV, myself and my team have been inundated with calls and emails asking for information on where to find ‘pure green coffee bean extract in a vegetarian capsule’ and how to make sure that you are not purchasing from a scam website. We have done extensive research and confirmed that the following companies are reputable and well-established (they were ‘founded’ more than 6 days ago), and they offer PURE green coffee bean extract with no additives, no binders, no fillers and no artificial ingredients:
- Pure Health
- Online www.purehealth100.com
- Phone: 1-888-323-9355
- Pure Health product is also available at Walmart stores nationwide
- Genesis Today (for full disclosure, I am the Founder & CEO of Genesis Today)
- Online: www.genesistoday.com
- Phone: 800-916-6642
- Your Local Health Foods store! I suggest you call before you make the trip as many locations have sold out of product.
He has done his research and Pure Health is number one. My first thought on this was that he was wisely doing the anti-trust thing. Suggest another competing product first. People will still buy from you as likely as not but you don’t look like you are scamming people, only helping them. After all, think about it, if you pushed this green coffee bean story as being a revolution in weight loss after one study of 16 people, you got many if not most of your facts wrong when you presented on TV and you were ridiculously specific about the dosage of the product, even though there is NO evidence anywhere to suggest that 400 mg capsules are a good dose and in the end it turned out you were the only one selling this product that you were hyping, well that wouldn’t look good at all. That would look like you manipulating a market, quite possibly working with Dr. Oz to create a multi-million dollar market out of thin air. Lindsey Duncan opened the whole show saying (taken from Lindsey Duncan post on Dr. Oz.com)
Normally, I don’t recommend “weight-loss” supplements, especially weight-loss supplements that claim “easy” weight loss or “fast” weight loss.
You Probably Won’t Believe this Next Turn of Events
At this point he said something else. I had to stop and rewind the video segment several times to make sure I heard him correctly; Duncan reports that participants consumed 2400 calories and states “they burned only 400 calories, now that’s weight gain, not weight loss.”
Is Duncan seriously suggesting that an average 170-180 lbs individual only needs 400 calories per day to survive? A simple test with a BMR (basal metabolic rate) calculator will show you that the amount of calories required is actually closer to 4 times that number!
Think about that for a second. A so called Dr., a nutritionist of all people, is claiming these people only burned 400 calories a day… yet they ate 2400… How in the world would that be possible-are these people in a cryogenic sleep state? Dr. Lindsey even thought about it and realized that they are storing 2000 calories a day, which is what he calls weight gain…. He thought about people burning 400 calories a day as normal… Still, this misstatement is showing up everywhere on sites associated with Lindsey Duncan’s products. I would have let it go, anyone can misstep with language once on national TV, but he keeps making this claim, even after ultimatefatburner has brought it to his attention. You can’t say that he may not have seen the blog entry because his team responded to it here.
I love that response by the way. My favourite part is where they throw Dr. Oz under the bus:
“I understand your frustration with some of the products or some of the herbs that are seen on Dr. Oz and their efficacy, but Dr. Lindsey is very careful about what he brings to the public light – and just because there might be holes in the study that you want to attack, Dr. Lindsey shouldn’t necessarily be the brunt of your attack. As they say, don’t kill the messenger :)”
With a smiley face emoticon even! If there are holes in the study and this is the study that Lindsey Duncan is bringing to the public, and calling earth shattering, in fact, it is the only thing on which he bases all of the hype that HE IS CREATING, then by definition you HAVE to kill the messenger because he is the entire problem. Still, I love how even Lindsey Duncan’s people think that Dr. Oz is a pathetic in the products he is shilling!
Getting back to the issue at hand though. If Lindsey Duncan is in fact promoting 2 brands of green coffee extract and admitting out of the need for full disclosure that he owns one of the brands, is there anything wrong with him not disclosing that he owns the other brand as well?
Again, I would have let this go, but a very astute reader of mine, Katrina noticed something a little more coincidental:
KatrinaAugust 2, 2012 1:12 pm
This was an interesting article. After also watching the segment on Dr. Oz with Dr. Duncan I started searching the Internet and found an article that stated the 2 best coffee bean supplements that he recommends (Genesis Today and Pure Health). It does state that he is CEO of Genesis but I decided to check out the Pure Health website as well. This website doesn’t mention who the owners are but If you dig deep enough the address is the same as Genesis (I think they were both in Austin, TX). Interesting, huh?????
Katrina,That is interesting. I did a bit of digging and yes, they do have the exact same address:
Genesis Today Inc.
14101 West Highway 290
Austin, TX 78737
Pure Health LLC
c/o 3PL Distribution
14101 W. Hwy. 290, #1900
Austin TX 78737
I checked out the location on google maps. It is a small warehouse in Texas, there is no way that there are 2 companies there, or that Pure Health coincidently uses the same fulfillment centre as Genesis today. Great digging.
Still, I have had products for sale before (nothing related to weight loss, in fact it was for poker) and we used a fulfillment centre (sometimes if you make a product you don’t want to be shipping it out of your garage, so you pay a company to store the product in their warehouse and fill the orders as they come in. This is a fulfillment centre), so this could be a coincidence. I did get a good look at the business centre and that building isn’t a fulfilment centre. Even if it were, why would Genesis today list it as it’s legal business address? A fulfilment centre has nothing to do with your legal business address, in fact it is that fulfillment centres legal address . As well, Austin Texas is a strange location for a fulfillment centre.
So, I am now pretty sure that Lindsey Duncan used his ‘full disclosure’ to actually trick us into thinking that he was actually fully disclosing his conflicts of interest, when in fact he was hiding that he had business interests in both of the companies that he is promoting. I don’t know if that would be so bad either if he hadn’t spent so much of each of his videos and press releases admonishing us to avoid fillers, get 400 mg, avoid scams, “use well-established companies (that were ‘founded’ more than 6 days ago)”, which all might have seemed like good, doctoral advice, when in fact it was all part of a scam to get you to buy his product instead of anyone else’s. Here he is spending minutes and an entire press release, literally stating:
My mission is to make the world a healthier place by educating on natural health and wellness and to make affordable healthy, all-natural products available and accessible for everyone. It is unfortunate that when the natural, medical or scientific community uncovers one of Nature’s most incredible natural secrets that has the potential to make a significant impact and improve the lives of millions of people around the world – that so many scammers and marketeers jump on the bandwagon with only the mission to take advantage of innocent consumers who are searching for hope and seeking to improve their health and happiness.”
Yes, he literally stated that. I wonder, was that little voice inside his head laughing and saying, and I am one of those scammers and marketeers…
If only I could find some evidence that he has some financial connection to the Pure Health company. The problem is though, the website does not even list the real company name that sells the products. Is it Pure Health, is it Pure Health 100, or some other variation. You would be astounded at how many variation there are in Texas. Is the company even founded in Texas or were they devious enough to found it somewhere else? When was it founded even, was this a newly hatched plan or something thought up long before?
I was getting nowhere on the computer and had a list of people I could follow up with by phone over the next week or so. I had landlord’s numbers, IT professionals who handled the website, etc. I would get to the bottom of this. I had done a lot of research into company ownership back when I was doing a report on a scam ring of websites run by Henny Den Uijl and Bryan Corlett, including Lypozene and a dozen others, so I kept looking. After awhile, I became heartened when I came across this. Do you see the words in the url?:
On the pure Health website, on an obscure link, when clicked, you get a link that includes Genesis Today. This was evidence, but easy for them to clean up and certainly not proof. Still, I knew I had the good Dr.
Some complaints for Pure Health (a lot of complaints: “Since the beginning of May 2012, BBB has received a high volume and pattern of complaints regarding non-delivery of products ordered online. Many of these complaints are currently pending response from the company” source) in the BBB and a website registration led me to Nevada, . Once I had that, I had the whole picture:
PURE HEALTH LLC.
Why I was having no luck finding them was because they were only created at the end of February, 2012. Coincidently, the press release from Dr. Lindsey Duncan (the one advising you to use well established companies) was dated May 4th and he appeared on Dr. Oz in April. So, this company was created before the Dr. Oz show aired, but certainly after he knew he was doing it, possibly after it was taped… very tricky, but even he would have to admit that this certainly was not a well established company!
I actually was quite suspicious that his wife was involved in this scam earlier because as I searched through Lindsey Duncan’s associated companies and business associates I found some interesting connections, including a holding company owned by Cheryl Wheeler-Duncan. At this point I assumed she was his wife, and that holding company made me suspicious (although to tell you the truth, it probably has nothing to do with the whole Pure Health thing, just that holding companies are ALWAYS suspicious).
The Owner of Pure Health 100
Complainants allege products are purchased via the company’s website, payment is received, sometimes overnight, and products are not delivered by the promised delivery date. Complainants also claim the inability to contact the company to inquire about their purchase.
“As you are reaching out to these companies, please be patient. They are also being inundated with orders and inquiries, and will serve you as quickly as they possibly can.”
Hey Everyone. Check out celebrity nutritionist and natural health expert Dr. Lindsey Duncan talking about Superfoods that will help you slim down this summer. Like Pure Saffron from Pure Health! Thanks for the support Dr. Lindsey!