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Dr. Oz is on the fast train to the *Rogue’s Gallery (with Lindsey Duncan coming along for the ride)

July 28, 2012

*The Rogues Gallery can be found here for those who would like to know more about it or see who has already been inducted.

Seriously, when did Dr. Oz start becoming a shill for the worst weight loss supplement ideas?  I want to like Dr. Oz but he has come up on my radar so many times before and I gave him a pass each time, but this is too much.

I recently read a junk email I had been received that blurted out PURE_KEYTONE.  I normally junk any email with all caps in the subject, and for the life of me I can’t figure out why my junk mail filter can’t figure out this simple rule, but for some reason I read this one.  It reads:

Just released:  Dr. Oz discovers new weight loss miracle

Now, there is enough in that heading alone to make me ignore the junk email, but I was feeling curious and there was a link to this video (if the video is taken down, you can find it here http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/miracle-fat-burner-bottle):

This video is so full of warning signs of a pure scam I am not sure what to think of Dr. Oz (Seriously, did I hear him say, #1 Miracle in a Bottle… how many miracles have been bottled??!?!).  I don’t think he is a con artist.  I don’t think he is being paid by the makers of Raspberry Keytones to say what he says….  Could he really be this stupid?  I don’t know how.  I figured I would research this product and then disprove everything in the video, but I didn’t even have to.  This guy, Andrew Lessman, already did and you can read all about it by clicking on the link.

I don’t know which of the main facts bother me the most.  This is not a natural raspberry ketone, but a synthetic manufactured one.  The real product is ridiculously expensive, but this cheap knock off obviously isn’t, yet everyone is touting this stuff as if it comes from real raspberries.  That is so bad it really does deserve extra mention, along with the fact that there is apparently almost no research behind this product even though Dr. Oz and Lisa Lynn talk so much about research, but I think what makes me the most mad about this Dr. Oz segment is the way he puts balloons in liquid nitrogen and explains that is exactly what is happening in your body…  SERIOUSLY DR. OZ?!!?!?  Did you just get a liquid nitrogen kit for your birthday and you were eager to try it out??? That has nothing to do with how fat loss works in any circumstances…  Balloons shrink because the atoms in them slow down as a consequence of cooling and therefore apply less pressure to the wall of the balloon… how in the world does this relate to raspberry ketone?!??!?  Please explain this to us!

I was already suspicious of Dr. Oz when he proclaimed that African Mango was a ‘Breakthrough supplement’, in First For Women Magazine.  I don’t want to slam First For Women Magazine here, because they are such a pathetic rag of a magazine, I will save them for a whole entry.  In any case, it seems that every week Dr. Oz has a new miracle diet that they are happy to share with us.   In fact, Dr. Oz even thought that African Mango is one of the 3 supplements you need in your medicine cabinet… seriously

Dr. Oz African Mango; Irvingia Gabonensis; In this segment of the Dr. Oz show today Dr Oz African Mango, Vitamin B And A Multi Vitamins In Your Medicine Cabinet Dr. Oz talked about the 3 must have’s for the medicine cabinet. There is interest in using supplements containing Irvingia gabonensis for weight loss, lowering cholesterol levels, and improving control of diabetes. weight loss and diet miracles that you find in your medicine cabinet including Vitamin B, African Mango(or Irvingia Gabonensis) and a multivitamin. source

He called this one a miracle in your medicine cabinet…  I get the impression that Dr. Oz throws around the word miracle a little too easily.  In any case, if you want to hear about the problems with African Mango, you can read about them here when I went after him in 2010.

That is 2 straight up scams he fell for… hopefully he has mended his ways, realized what a bozo he looks like being duped over and over again.  After all, he has an audience of millions who run out and buy whatever products he recommends.  I am sure he feels terrible for having these people spend their money and more importantly put their hope and their faith into something he assures them is an actual miracle, only to find out later that it does not do anything that it claims.


Wait… here he is selling a new Green Coffee Bean Extract as a weight loss supplement… opening up with claims like,’Magic Weight Loss Cure for EVERY Body type and Miracle Pill (there is a bunch of those miracle pills apparently).  You can see the embarrassing video for yourself, below (if the video below has been taken down, you can always find it here: http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/miracle-pill-burn-fat-pt-1):

Here you can read an unbiased reporting of the study that is apparently shaking the science community to their core!  Notice first and foremost the size of the study.  Only 16 overweight individuals.  Otherwise, the weight loss seems to be reported correctly, but look at how the study was run.  It was a ‘cross over study’ with each person taking each of the 3 treatments during the study, Placebo, High Dose and Low Dose.

It was a so-called “cross-over” study in which people cycled through the two doses and the placebo, each for six weeks. Such studies have advantages because each person serves as his or her own “control,” improving the chances of getting an accurate result.

For the life of me I cannot figure out how this makes each person his or her own ‘control’ unless they are reporting the data as a 6 week outcome.  Even then, how are they varying the treatment, is it random?  Do they report the weight loss during each portion of the study?  I can’t find that out because even more disturbingly, the study does not appear to have been published.  It has only been presented and all of the material for the article was sourced from this press release.

So, at best we have some intriguing information to follow up on with other studies.  It would be criminal for a doctor to jump from that to calling this a weight loss miracle and suggest that ‘this little bean has scientists saying they have found the magic weight loss cure for every body type.’  You can see him say that in the video above, I am not making this up.  I have no idea what network he is on, but I cannot imagine that this recklessness isn’t opening them up to some terrific litigation possibilities.

Of course, they could always blame it on Lindsay Duncan, the certified nutritionist who is so excited about green coffee beans.  Who is Lindsay Duncan?  Well, according to his bio:

With over 28 years of clinical experience naturopathic doctor and celebrity nutritionist, Dr. Lindsey Duncan is often called the “Indiana Jones of Medicine,” and is one of the world’s leading experts on superfoods, herbal medicine, natural remedies and natural health.

With an intro like that, you KNOW I am going to bury this guy.  Often called, the Indiana Jones of Medicine… maybe if you count the times he pays people  to say it to him.  This guy is remarkable.  He claims that he doesn’t often offer weight loss supplement advice and this appears to be mostly true, until you dig a little deeper and find out he too is in on the Raspberry Ketone deal and he also appears to be recommending Resveratrol, the much touted active ingredient in Red Wine, for weight loss (and there is the MLM scam, but that comes later).  Still, compared to how many other products he recommends for cures for just about every ailment, I am going to give him a pass on this one.  Comparatively he doesn’t recommend weight loss supplements as much as every other type of supplement on earth!  If you have the endurance to sit through it, this is an amazing self promotion video:

You even get to hear him called the Indiana Jones of Medicine…  So, other than the fact that this guy is spouting off about how ingredients work like he actually has a clue (it is this jump from the results of a study to this sureness of how the product works that makes nutritionists like this guy so detestable), you get this really annoying soundtrack that keeps on touting this ‘Genesis Pure’.  I will get to that in a second, but in the meantime I want to talk about his demo reel he is peddling on You Tube.  The thing is, if he had discovered a product that actually worked, touted one discovery that was of any value or performed any research on anything, that would be worthy of a demo reel and I would expect to see it in his video.  Of course I don’t believe he has done any of this, instead his demo reel consists of whatever promotional spots he can get on vapid shows like The View and the celebrities he has had his photo with.  He can’t even help himself but he has to look at the camera when he is being filmed climbing a palm tree.

All of this makes me hate the guy, and the fact that he states that he is ‘one of the world’s leading experts on super foods’, and I have said repeatedly that super foods are a scam and anyone who tries to pitch them to you is a con artist… well, by that definition, Lindsay Duncan is the world’s leading expert!  Further, what makes this guy even more suspect is the fact that he is an expert on the alkaline diet, a diet based upon such misinformation as to be mind boggling.  I had thought that everyone associated with this diet had hidden their heads in shame.

This is all bad, but possibly forgivable, but you see, what you didn’t find out from the Dr. Oz bit, you know the one about green coffee bean extract, is that this Lindsey guy likes it so much he is helping legitimate supplement companies by giving them a video telling people how to buy the right type of Green Coffee Bean Extract.  You can see the video here.  It is on the website of Genesis Today.  They sell green coffee bean extract and they have posted a video of the good doctor, not only explaining exactly how this supplement works, but more importantly what to look for when you are buying it.  I am sure he performs this service for every supplement company because he is such a believer in this product, there isn’t a reason why he would be doing it just for Genesis today…  Mind you, that name does ring a bell…

Wait, wasn’t that part of the song in the self aggrandizing video he has of himself?  OMG, a quick search on LinkedIn and low and behold, he is CEO of Genesis Today.  He makes money (I would think lots of money) selling the same green coffee bean extract he was touting to Dr. Oz!!!  I am not making this up.  NOWHERE in the video does he admit this.  He does not state his clear conflict of interest in the interview with Dr. Oz, and true to form, the crack squad on that TV show failed to pick this up before broadcast.  In fact, nowhere on the website can you find the corporate information that would tell you that Lindsey Duncan is the CEO of this company.  Any real profession would at the least censure someone for such a clear failure to disclose your relationship with the product you are promoting.  No wonder he likes the green coffee beans… he is sitting on tons of them!  Oh, and by the way, this guy also likes the raspberry ketones at the end of this video, so rest assured he is probably selling that too.  I was wondering if there was a connection between himself and the girl from the raspberry ketone segment on Dr. Oz, Lisa Lynn, but I haven’t found one yet.   Mind you, she sells raspberry ketones too.  It appears that Dr. Oz is literally a shill….

If that was all, Lindsey Duncan, the Snake Oil Salesman of the Medicine industry  (by the way, so far as I can tell, he has been called that as many times as Indiana Jones), would have vaulted himself right into the Rogues Gallery,but there is more.  Lindsey Duncan has now gone into the Multilevel Marketing business with his green coffee bean extract leading the way.  Everyone knows that MLM’s are scams.  They are bad for everyone but the person who starts them.  What these guys are selling is the water filter or 2012.

Some of the crap they sell:

Cell Water
Item #: GS046
Cell Water effectively transports nutrients, enzymes, and proteins into cells while removing toxic buildup that accumulates in cells.
CardioClean
Item #: GP00087
Genesis PURE CardioClean is the world’s first liquid dietary cardiovascular support supplement.
32 oz bottle of CardioClean
HealthTrim- Metabolic Boost
Item #: GP00050
HealthTrim® Metabolic Boost is a comprehensive and complete weight control formula that addresses weight loss from seven critical angles. Most effective when used as part of the complete HealthTrim Natural Detox and Weight Loss Program.*
60 Capsules
Your Price: $36.95

Cell Water?!?!? Come on… at least try!!  That is pathetic.  I love how the weight control formula addresses weight loss from seven critical angles…  7 huh?  Why not eight?  Well, that is trying at least.

It would take me another entry to go through the Genesis PURE website, but it appears to be a standard MLM scam with terrible products run by a guy who loves green coffee beans and climbing palm trees.

I love it when I get 2 inductees for the price of one.  Welcome to the Rogues Gallery Drs.  You will find yourself in good company.

19 Comments leave one →
  1. Katrina permalink
    August 2, 2012 1:12 pm

    Dear Mark,
    This was an interesting article. After also watching the segment on Dr. Oz with Dr. Duncan I started searching the Internet and found an article that stated the 2 best coffee bean supplements that he recommends (Genesis Today and Pure Health). It does state that he is CEO of Genesis but I decided to check out the Pure Health website as well. This website doesn’t mention who the owners are but If you dig deep enough the address is the same as Genesis (I think they were both in Austin, TX). Interesting, huh?????

    • Katrina permalink
      August 2, 2012 1:18 pm

      P. S. They do sell Raspberry Ketones on the Pure Health website.

    • YouAreNotAFitPerson permalink*
      August 3, 2012 11:26 pm

      Very interesting and very good digging.
      Address for Genesis Today:

      Genesis Today Inc.
      14101 West Highway 290
      Building 1900
      Austin, TX 78737

      Pure Health LLC
      c/o 3PL Distribution
      14101 W. Hwy. 290, #1900
      Austin TX 78737

      I checked out the location on google maps. It is a small warehouse in Texas, there is no way that there are 2 companies there, or that Pure Health coincidently uses the same fulfillment centre as Genesis today. Great digging. It comes up a lot in some related stories. I am going to write an entry about your discovery and some other facts! Thank you so much! What a scammer this guy is!!

  2. September 5, 2012 9:42 am

    I am going to share my story with you. I am a single mom, going to college and working. When I was initially introduced to Genesis Pure and its products, I was overweight, unhealthy, constantly fatigued, hormonal, and putting horrible food into my body. I am not a person who has tried every diet on the planet, and I have never signed up to sell products or joined a MLM company. I do not watch Dr. Oz and do not give a flip about what products he promotes. I didn’t even know who Dr. Lindsey Duncan was until a friend told me about these green coffee bean pills. She was losing weight and feeling better. Okay, sure, whatever. I was a HUGE skeptic. HUGE. I decided to cough up the money for a bottle of the coffee beans and thought, “Maybe I will lose a pound or two, but I doubt it.” I also began researching Genesis Pure and Dr. Lindsey Duncan. I read about his products, his philosophy, his background, his clients, and carefully looked into which companies he is associated with. Certainly, there exists a massive amount of hype around Dr. Lindsey. But please don’t hate until you have tried the products.

    I began to actually lose a few pounds on the coffee bean pills. I decided that at this point in my life, I had nothing to lose by trying some other things. I started doing the Core Cleanse and it has changed my life. I am losing weight, I no longer desire fast food, I have given up caffeine drinks, I have energy, and my body is FINALLY getting the nutrients it has craved for years.

    Have any of you actually tried the Genesis Pure products? I understand that the MLM set-up of Genesis Pure initially screams “scam,” however, if you truly research the company and the products, you might actually sing a different tune. You do not have to join as a “seller.” I have friends whose lives and health are changing because of the Genesis Pure products. It is truly remarkable what is happening around me. Have you read the labels on the products? Do you understand at all, how the body works? Do you understand what ph levels mean? Dr. Lindsey Duncan CLEARLY states on his website that he is the Founder and CEO of Genesis Today and Genesis Pure. It is not a secret. He has issued a press release about various companies who are selling “Green Coffee Bean” pills. He offers several companies from which a person can purchase said pills (yes, of course, he is promoting his products), but he also gives advice on what to look for on labels if you decide to buy elsewhere!

    We live in a country that promotes and endorses a prescription for everything. People are overmedicated. People are unhealthy. Our bodies are toxic. Our “system” for addressing our health issues is not working. The key to our health is understanding how the body works. I am still learning. However, I actually have the energy to research and care now.

    I will grant you that the MLM system seems shady, at first. Have you heard of Arbonne? Mary Kay? The list goes on and on. The MLM system does not have to be evil. It is about the products. Which companies does Dr. Lindsey own? Are the products total BS? Before you make a firm argument against Dr. Lindsey, his companies, and his products, talk to some people who are actually using the products. Try the Core Cleanse from Genesis Pure for one month and see how you feel. You don’t have to sell it or “join” the company. I could care less who owns what and who is promoting which company. My life has changed, my daughter’s life has changed, and my friends’ lives are changing. Am I now a Genesis Pure representative? Hell, yes. Did I want to be a seller? Hell, no. However, when I began to feel better than I had in YEARS, I had to tell people. I HAD to. Am I making a ton of money from being a representative? Not yet. That was never the goal. Never. I just thought I might lose 3 or 4 pounds. It has become about so much more than that. It has truly become about my health.

    The bottom line is this: Don’t hate products that you don’t understand and have never tried. Don’t hate Dr. Lindsey for being successful. Don’t hate him for exploring new ways for us to regain our health and to live better lives. Don’t be so suspicious that you immediately dismiss a new way of looking at things.

    • YouAreNotAFitPerson permalink*
      September 5, 2012 2:33 pm

      Thanks for the opinion and the comment Nina. Congratulations on getting your health together, that is great. I think you missed the point though. Dr. Lindsey Duncan only stated that he was the founder and CEO of Genesis today, he, to my knowledge still has never answered any questions about his ownership of Pure Health as well, the other brand of Green Coffee Beans that he recommends (I bet you thought the ‘other companies’ that he recommended weren’t owned by him…). Ironically, you should hate Dr. Lindsey more than I do, after all, you bought into his MLM network without knowing that he had launched other companies to compete with the one you sell for. Of all the people that he is hurting, his MLM team is probably the worst. Can I ask you though, I have not been able to discover Dr. Lindsey’s credentials. I have checked over and over again, and I can’t find out what his educational background is or who certifies him as a nutritionalist. Did he disclose this information to you before recruiting you to sell his products?

    • slonis888 permalink
      September 24, 2012 9:38 am

      Nina thanks for your comments, I like them. I am taking green coffee bean extract also and feel immensly better, actually began feeling “lighter” almost immediately ha ha. Heck of a deal.
      I have contacted Genesis Co and requested information on a distributorship but was referred to another number and put on hold for so long I hung up. Please advise me if you are able to sponsor other distributors, I have been in several MLM distributorships and have no aversion to network marketing of good and popular products. I would love to be sponsored by someone like yourself, if you understand what I am saying…your gross volume and consequent prices and commissions will be improved by any volume I generate. Same deal for everyone…with residual income.
      Let me know what we can do, I am pretty much a self starter and will not require much help or attention.
      Thanks,
      Scott H Lonis
      Lubbock Texas.

      • YouAreNotAFitPerson permalink*
        September 24, 2012 1:58 pm

        Hey Scott, thanks for thinking of us. We don’t support MLM’s in any capacity, none the less, I am sure with your self starter attitude you will do very well.

  3. September 5, 2012 9:56 am

    Interesting to see that you are also promoting a fitness book at the price of $19.95. Pot? Kettle?

    • YouAreNotAFitPerson permalink*
      September 5, 2012 2:44 pm

      Not exactly sure how writing or selling a book is in any way equivalent to setting up shadow corporations right before promoting under-researched products as miracles on national television, while failing to disclose the ownership of this corporations. Do you think I have a problem with people who sell things? Or authors? I don’t. If I start selling a line of supplements you can suggest that I am being a hypocrite. If I start endorsing supplements and it turns out I own the companies that sell the supplements that I am endorsing, although I am the whole time hiding this fact, you can definitely point out that the pot is in fact black.
      I have a tremendous problem with self-proclaimed experts, who so often appear to be nothing more than snake oil salesmen (and women) who promote miraculous benefits from products that have not been researched enough to actually prove that they have those benefits. I will call out each and every person I see who does that.

  4. September 24, 2012 9:28 am

    HEY…IF IT WORKS I WANT IT…
    SHL

  5. September 25, 2012 3:21 pm

    Scott, I actually came across this site by accident. I work with Genesis Pure and live here in Lubbock also. You can go to genesispays.com and call or email us and we can get information to you. Right now there is a free membership until end of Sept.
    Vickie at GenesisPays.com

    • slonis888 permalink
      September 27, 2012 6:20 am

      Vickie i am primarily interestedin the green coffee bean extract product but do not see any in the sign up distributor packages. Any chance this will be included any time soon?
      Scott Lonis

  6. Tim H permalink
    December 18, 2013 12:03 pm

    I was very adamant to get involved with Genesis Pure because My mom had tried a couple MLM companies in the past and she lost money every time. My parents Heard about Genesis Pure through my rich uncle who makes over $3,000 a week in Genesis Pure right. He helped my family get started and after evaluating what it was doing for my uncle and others around me, I told myself I would be A fool to not be a part of Genesis Pure! I have been taking the Products for about a month now and I feel better than I have felt in a long time. My body no longer feels drained of energy and my body heals faster from everything. I even started to make some money in the second week. If this were a scam, it’s the best scam i have ever run across in my life. My dad is big into health food… He had melanoma cancer at one point and cured it through health food products. When he found out about Genesis Pure, He was blown away and said he had never seen anything like this in his life. This stuff works!

    Quick Fact: Since 1990, 200,000 millionaires were made through MLM companies… and that doesn’t include those who made 6 digits a year.

    As for YouAreNotAFitPerson, you are a fool. (Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance)

  7. Tim H permalink
    December 18, 2013 12:31 pm

    I would never take advise from someone who only sees the negative side of things and doesn’t dig deep enough with research to stay alive. The research here could not be farther from the truth.

  8. Chris P permalink
    January 20, 2014 11:42 am

    His website is drlindsey.com he promotes (owns) genesis pure, genesis today and pure health 100. There are links to each of those “tested and trusted brands” on his site. Genesis Pure has all kinds of sugar in its products, one thing he preaches against. He also said on Dr. Oz to only use pure green coffee bean, to stay away from the ones with silica in it. Low and behold his GP brand contains fillers to include… silica.
    For some reason the store brands genesis today and pure100 actually have the pure products, so it really makes me wonder why the GP products have fillers.

    Tim H,anyone will feel great if you pump as many B6 and B12 vitamins into them as there are in the GP products. Dig deep enough with research to stay alive? Do you read the content of what is in the products you take? Or do you just drink the “magical elixir”?

    Do some research on the vitamins your body needs, and pay a reasonable price for them from a reputable company. “proprietary blend” crap is always crap. If you need L-arginine, which I take everyday, then go buy a $5 dollar bottle of it that will last for months and a jug of BCAA’s (or branch chained amino acids) from a nutrition shop, which will have double the types and amount of aminos in it and have a 30 day supply for around $20 or less, unlike the measly 15 servings for $35 GPS pro-Arginine version.

    Can you make money on it? With markups like that, I would hope so.

    • Michael permalink
      March 21, 2014 9:18 pm

      Good Christians, are you seriously going to trust a guy who lies about being a doctor and who does not even have an undergraduate degree? Is this not pride? Who is pandering to vanity to sell diet pills? Who steps out on his wife, lies about being divorced to feed the demon of his greed, and who cheats his child out of child support? Really? Why would you trust someone like this? Is there not a very popular story in the Bible that speaks of a serpent tempting someone to eat the forbidden fruit? Oh, yes. The book of Genesis. Genesis Pure. Genesis Today. Irony? Fall from grace was it not? And when God asked Eve why she ate of the fruit, she replied that a magician deceived her. Don’t be deceived. Don’t eat the forbidden fruit of false prophets calling themselves doctors using slight of hand to sell you lies to line their pockets. Tempting you with the illusion of making millions if you get friends and family to invest in false hopes. If you do, you may find yourself envying the topline who appear to be rolling in the dough when they are actually their brother’s deceiver not keeper. These things always end badly for the many who will be left with empty pockets and an empty soul. Maybe the good book was trying to save you from this painful lesson. This is greed, plain and simple, and greed begets greed and always wants more and always wins. This is a lose-lose for you.

      • YouAreNotAFitPerson permalink*
        March 24, 2014 5:41 pm

        Micheal,
        I agree with what you are saying here in principle, but I cannot support the accusations you are making. So far as I know there is no evidence to back up the following claims:
        “Who steps out on his wife, lies about being divorced to feed the demon of his greed, and who cheats his child out of child support?”
        and even if there were, several of these allegations only bear any interest to this story precisely because of Lindsey Duncan’s claims that being ‘right with god’ is part of staying healthy. Otherwise, these just don’t have anything to do with an evidence based method of discovering health and well-being.

  9. Chris permalink
    December 17, 2014 10:27 pm

    Wow, there are some really ignorant bloggers on this thread….including the author. Do the statistical research on the product, as well as partner performances and testimonials, talk to a real live human about their personal results, and then make a qualified decision. Jealousy, lack of info, and hating does not a good review make. Genesis Pure has without a doubt improved myself and my fiancés health…mine with psoriasis, her with cluster migraines…and we have stopped taking the medications we took for years that hurt us with side effects. As for the business side….I recovered my initial investment (that also included a LOT of product) in a month working less than part time, and have since stopped working as a caterer and restaurant manager after 25 years to help others do the same. Shame on you for dogging a product that really helps people get better quality of life and make a good living without work related stress. Get a clue, get a life.

  10. sam permalink
    April 7, 2015 6:11 am

    One of the biggest jokes is the Andrew Lessnan vitamin line. Many are synthetic. He pushes every one if them to the point that if you don’t buy this or that one you’ll be sick. You can go broke buying all his stuff. This is a wheeler dealer.

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